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Post subject: Re: Reading Ross' Book. Q: Possible to be Strong, Fast, and  Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 5:41 am |
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The Hardcore link is pretty much bang on what you need. Since you're not a fighter and also want to gain weight you're better off focusing on strength and lowering (but not ditching) the conditioning. A little observation from my own training. When I include bodyweight movements, my weight tends to stay roughly the same. If I ditch them it Find it easier to gain weight but it's not always the right kind of weight  . _________________ My logBig goal for this year 140kg overhead, any means necessary. "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit." -- Aristotle
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Post subject: Re: Reading Ross' Book. Q: Possible to be Strong, Fast, and Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:17 am |
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Thanks everyone for your advice and links. Time to go hit the gym!
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Post subject: Re: Reading Ross' Book. Q: Possible to be Strong, Fast, and Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:18 pm |
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You certain 'can' be big, fast and strong but genetrics plays a huge part. My matabolism is extremely fast so for me to get big I have to cut down the conditioning and eat far too much and I become big but slow...
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Yawriats
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Post subject: Re: Reading Ross' Book. Q: Possible to be Strong, Fast, and Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 11:46 pm |
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Keep in mind that you won't apper big if you're lean (unless you're a genetic beast or walk around without a shirt on). Your maximal weight is somewhere around 80 kg (~176 lbs), provided you keep very low bf. That is about as big as you can get without drugs.
If you want to be bigger than that, you could (a) get fat or (b) start using drugs. There is no other way.
But as already mentioned, confidence is more important than appearance.
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Post subject: Re: Reading Ross' Book. Q: Possible to be Strong, Fast, and Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:09 am |
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Yawriats wrote: Your maximal weight is somewhere around 80 kg (~176 lbs), provided you keep very low bf. That is about as big as you can get without drugs.
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Post subject: Re: Reading Ross' Book. Q: Possible to be Strong, Fast, and Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:21 am |
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Metherlance wrote: Yawriats wrote: Your maximal weight is somewhere around 80 kg (~176 lbs), provided you keep very low bf. That is about as big as you can get without drugs.
Where on Earth did you pluck that number from?x2 _________________ My logBig goal for this year 140kg overhead, any means necessary. "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit." -- Aristotle
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Yawriats
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Post subject: Re: Reading Ross' Book. Q: Possible to be Strong, Fast, and Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:31 am |
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Source: leangains
I can google for specifics if you want... Bottom line, (person's height in cm) - (100 cm) gives about maximal lean weight (in kg) for certain height, PROVIDED very low bf (ripped). Of course, people will vary in weight, but not that much, maybe few (1, 2) kg up or down.
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Yawriats
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Post subject: Re: Reading Ross' Book. Q: Possible to be Strong, Fast, and Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:34 am |
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Post subject: Re: Reading Ross' Book. Q: Possible to be Strong, Fast, and Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:13 am |
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Sounds like broscience to me...
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Post subject: Re: Reading Ross' Book. Q: Possible to be Strong, Fast, and Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:04 am |
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Read the Lyle McDonald article linked there. It's a simplified equation that tallies very well with more complicated models.
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