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Brooklyn_teacher wrote:
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Tyson was already in a decline when he faced Douglas
And was not training aswell, gassed early in the fight, and was knocked down in sparring a few weeks before the fight
This goes to prove my comparison with Naseem! hamed was well in decline when he met Barrerra. he should have faced him after Steve Robinson but instead he fought Kelley. He didn't train for Barrerra at all and looked horrible in the small amount of sparring he did do. watch the documentary 'the Little Prince', it shows it all.
And Tyson was knocked silly by Douglas. watch the vid. He gets rocked repeatedly, responds with uppercuts from the outside - timing way off, vision affected, very likely already concussed - then Douglas smashes him with a wicked combination and Tyson goes down heavily with his head fishtailing all around from the shots he's taking as he falls. gets to his feet too late and he's falling into the ref as he does so. Any more 'silly' than that and it's Kostya v Zab silly.
Douglas started landing more after round 5 when Tyson started to tire more, but up to round 5 it was fairley even
Knocked silly as a KO i would agree with, but the fight overall no
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:28 am
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As fight fans we're always more forgiving to our idols. Truth be told, Tyson didn't lose to Buster Douglas and Naz was on the decline before Barrera - A fight he was winning up until Round 5. But, it's how they come back that matters.
These qualities distinguish Sugar Ray. Ali & Pacquiao from others. Even 'undefeated' Money Mayweather showed resolve in beating Castillo the second time round.
Tyson did come back, Naz didn't. They both deserve their place in the Hall Of Fame - Not because of what could of been, but because of the remarkable fighters they were.
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Brooklyn_teacher
Post subject: Re: Whatever Happened To ...
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:27 am
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Tyson didn't lose to Douglas? Did I wake up in some alternate timeline?
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Hotspurx
Post subject: Re: Whatever Happened To ...
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:34 am
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Brooklyn_teacher wrote:
Tyson didn't lose to Douglas? Did I wake up in some alternate timeline?
He didn't and McClellan didn't lose to Nigel Benn either. Had the rules been implemented correctly, Benn and Douglas would have been counted out.
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Brooklyn_teacher
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:34 am
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and if my grandmother had balls she'd have been my grandfather.... she ain't whining over it though.
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:42 am
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Brooklyn_teacher wrote:
and if my grandmother had balls she'd have been my grandfather.... she ain't whining over it though.
Well done Duran.
Wow, that's dopey.
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Brooklyn_teacher
Post subject: Re: Whatever Happened To ...
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:52 pm
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What's dopey is statements which depend upon tautologies such as
'The world is not the way the world is'
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Truth be told, Tyson didn't lose to Buster Douglas
or
'If things were different they'd be different'
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McClellan didn't lose to Nigel Benn either. Had the rules been implemented correctly, Benn and Douglas would have been counted out.
Both are frankly asinine observations since neither account for the possibility of fan man landing a parachute in the ring mid fight.
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Post subject: Re: Whatever Happened To ...
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:43 pm
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Brooklyn_teacher wrote:
Tyson didn't lose to Douglas? Did I wake up in some alternate timeline?
Did you see Paris KO Zab Judah at the weekend? It was a shame Mayweather picked up his first lost to Ortiz, hopefully he can recover against Cotto.
Muhammad Ali - The greatest boxer never to become a world champion.
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