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 Post subject: Re: Why does it matter if Obama was born in Kenya?
 Post Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:59 am 

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adamantine27 wrote:
Finn, I'm not too concerned at his chances at this point regardless of this week because, as I pointed out in the Obama 2012 thread, elections don't seem to get good numbers that you can follow hard until September. You yourself pointed out that McCain was leading in 2008 until September. So I looked back and, historically, races aren't really "started" until about September. For example, Kerry was leading Bush until around September in '04.

^^^ Wise words and so true in politics. Hell over here in the UK, at the time Neil Kinnock was the leader of the Labour party, they went in on the eve of the general election with everyone predicting a landslide win for Labour.

What happened? Just the opposite and Labour were trounced well and truly. Everyone was astonished and were saying "what happened to the opinion polls?"

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 Post subject: Re: Why does it matter if Obama was born in Kenya?
 Post Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:51 am 

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adamantine27 wrote:
As far as the Scott Walker thing goes...well, it just seems like the biggest bungle in terms of Democratic strategy. I mean... Walker beat this guy initially to win the governorship pretty handily. And then, when he does something controversial enough that there are enough people to trigger a recall, who do the Democrats run? The exact. Same. Person. How was that guy supposed to win? People don't turn out to vote in large numbers because they're AGAINST someone; they vote because they're FOR someone. What the hell kind of strategy was that??


I think a lot of people also just didn't like the recall being used for this as it seems to undermine the democratic system. Recalls are supposed to be for literally violating the law or whatnot, not for passing legislation one doesn't like.

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As far as the "public sector is doing fine" thing, here's the FULL quote:


What hurt Obama is he said that "the private sector is doing fine" which I think was an off-handed comment that he didn't really mean, but the Republicans are going to use it against him.


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