Comments on: You vs. Your Athletes http://rosstraining.com/blog/2010/05/13/you-vs-your-athletes/ RossTraining.com - Low-tech high-effect training advice without the nonsense Mon, 21 May 2012 07:25:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: dell http://rosstraining.com/blog/2010/05/13/you-vs-your-athletes/#comment-7870 dell Sat, 05 May 2012 10:11:38 +0000 http://rosstraining.com/blog/?p=1720#comment-7870 Awesome post Ross!! you provide great information and are an awesome coach and athlete. Great work, as usual! Awesome post Ross!! you provide great information and are an awesome coach and athlete. Great work, as usual!

]]> By: admin http://rosstraining.com/blog/2010/05/13/you-vs-your-athletes/#comment-7536 admin Thu, 01 Mar 2012 16:18:41 +0000 http://rosstraining.com/blog/?p=1720#comment-7536 Hello Kaya, for beginners, it could be useful, but as they become more advanced, your job is to be outside the ring, providing instruction to them against other opponents. You need to help them find openings, create openings, correct mistakes, etc. That happens when you instruct/coach them against others, not while you are the one inside the ring against them. Hello Kaya, for beginners, it could be useful, but as they become more advanced, your job is to be outside the ring, providing instruction to them against other opponents. You need to help them find openings, create openings, correct mistakes, etc. That happens when you instruct/coach them against others, not while you are the one inside the ring against them.

]]> By: Kaya http://rosstraining.com/blog/2010/05/13/you-vs-your-athletes/#comment-7535 Kaya Thu, 01 Mar 2012 15:37:43 +0000 http://rosstraining.com/blog/?p=1720#comment-7535 Hey Ross, Very true what you say. how do you think about sparring with your athletes? I ask this because I also teach kickboxing to people. With sparring I feel that I'm in a fragile position as a trainer because of two things: 1. I'm still a pretty ok fighter (age: still early 30's)and I rarely take big hits from students. So I wanna show that to my students so they can learn. But I can't really kick their ass because I don't wanna really hurt them or knock em out. They, on the otherhand, want to fight me and learn. and still they don't try to knock me out. but if they would hit me big once, I could lose respect from them. As a trainer you're not in the position to get knocked out. I once had a trainer who I could beat. and then I lost a bit of respect too. I love sparring and like to teach it to my students. My question to you is: would you sparr with them? and if yes: how? or just arrange sparring partners and coach them from outside the ring ? and then fight other than students to do my own training. thnx Ross for a good article! Kaya ps funny to see that the other comments to this article are mainly focused on your deadlift goal, while you are talking about coaching and coach&athlete relationship. anyways,good luck with the deadliftin' Hey Ross,

Very true what you say.
how do you think about sparring with your athletes?
I ask this because I also teach kickboxing to people. With sparring I feel that I’m in a fragile position as a trainer because of two things:
1. I’m still a pretty ok fighter (age: still early 30′s)and I rarely take big hits from students. So I wanna show that to my students so they can learn. But I can’t really kick their ass because I don’t wanna really hurt them or knock em out. They, on the otherhand, want to fight me and learn. and still they don’t try to knock me out. but if they would hit me big once, I could lose respect from them. As a trainer you’re not in the position to get knocked out. I once had a trainer who I could beat. and then I lost a bit of respect too.
I love sparring and like to teach it to my students. My question to you is: would you sparr with them? and if yes: how?
or just arrange sparring partners and coach them from outside the ring ? and then fight other than students to do my own training.

thnx Ross for a good article!

Kaya

ps funny to see that the other comments to this article are mainly focused on your deadlift goal, while you are talking about coaching and coach&athlete relationship. anyways,good luck with the deadliftin’

]]> By: Steve http://rosstraining.com/blog/2010/05/13/you-vs-your-athletes/#comment-7499 Steve Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:28:06 +0000 http://rosstraining.com/blog/?p=1720#comment-7499 As a coach with my own style of strength training classes, I can totally relate to this post. I mistakenly thought in my earlier days that I would have to stay ahead of my clients/athletes - but that was exactly what you say it was, my ego. If or should I say when my clients pass me it will give me great satisfaction. As a coach with my own style of strength training classes, I can totally relate to this post.

I mistakenly thought in my earlier days that I would have to stay ahead of my clients/athletes – but that was exactly what you say it was, my ego.

If or should I say when my clients pass me it will give me great satisfaction.

]]> By: Lucas Tucker http://rosstraining.com/blog/2010/05/13/you-vs-your-athletes/#comment-7094 Lucas Tucker Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:49:23 +0000 http://rosstraining.com/blog/?p=1720#comment-7094 Great Post! I teach martial arts with a heavy conditioning component and often get asked by my students why I only demonstrate and call the workouts and not participate. I may teach martial arts, but I am also a triathlete and train up to 10 hours per week. The newer students don't realize the intense workouts I put in everyday before I come into our gym, the old students have figured it out- usually after they see me out on my bike 40 miles out of town or running deep in the country. Great Post! I teach martial arts with a heavy conditioning component and often get asked by my students why I only demonstrate and call the workouts and not participate. I may teach martial arts, but I am also a triathlete and train up to 10 hours per week. The newer students don’t realize the intense workouts I put in everyday before I come into our gym, the old students have figured it out- usually after they see me out on my bike 40 miles out of town or running deep in the country.

]]> By: ernie http://rosstraining.com/blog/2010/05/13/you-vs-your-athletes/#comment-4664 ernie Thu, 03 Mar 2011 17:44:14 +0000 http://rosstraining.com/blog/?p=1720#comment-4664 Ross, Without a doubt you provide the best training information and insight anywhere on the web. We are inundated by infomercials for P90X and other gimmicks and the latest craze of CrossFit, which have worthwhile content but whose focus is really making a buck. None of these top what you provide plus you focus on the no nonsense approach. Keep it up. Ross,
Without a doubt you provide the best training information and insight anywhere on the web. We are inundated by infomercials for P90X and other gimmicks and the latest craze of CrossFit, which have worthwhile content but whose focus is really making a buck. None of these top what you provide plus you focus on the no nonsense approach. Keep it up.

]]> By: Jim http://rosstraining.com/blog/2010/05/13/you-vs-your-athletes/#comment-4663 Jim Sun, 20 Jun 2010 18:59:08 +0000 http://rosstraining.com/blog/?p=1720#comment-4663 Ross, I deadlifted 500 pounds in 1981 when I was 19. Since then I've served 4 years in the USMC infantry, ran a marathon, half marathons and did a fair amount of cycling. I'm 48 now and very into functional strength training and conditioning. Your website and the info you put out have helped me enormously. Keep up the good work and all the best to you and your family. I'm working on the Warrior's test and it makes a 25 mile forced road march with full combat gear seem not so difficult anymore! Ross,
I deadlifted 500 pounds in 1981 when I was 19. Since then I’ve served 4 years in the USMC infantry, ran a marathon, half marathons and did a fair amount of cycling. I’m 48 now and very into functional strength training and conditioning. Your website and the info you put out have helped me enormously. Keep up the good work and all the best to you and your family. I’m working on the Warrior’s test and it makes a 25 mile forced road march with full combat gear seem not so difficult anymore!

]]> By: Ian Duckett. http://rosstraining.com/blog/2010/05/13/you-vs-your-athletes/#comment-4662 Ian Duckett. Fri, 28 May 2010 16:01:23 +0000 http://rosstraining.com/blog/?p=1720#comment-4662 Very impressed Ross. Love your work buddy--your site and blog is one of the best on the web. I only look at a select few sites-( no time clients and kids ) yours is allways top of my list. You have the right balance of everything -in life-business-training and nutrition. Well done sir --please keep up the good work. Train hard eat clean- Ian. Very impressed Ross.
Love your work buddy–your site and blog is one of the best on the web.
I only look at a select few sites-( no time clients and kids ) yours is allways top of my list.
You have the right balance of everything -in life-business-training and nutrition.
Well done sir –please keep up the good work.
Train hard eat clean- Ian.

]]> By: MarcChrys http://rosstraining.com/blog/2010/05/13/you-vs-your-athletes/#comment-4661 MarcChrys Tue, 18 May 2010 21:21:07 +0000 http://rosstraining.com/blog/?p=1720#comment-4661 Very valid points about pursuing your personal goals. That said, your post shows how 'personal' those goals are and how variable they are for different people - for me the goal of deadlifting a very heavy weight has no motivational value at all, whereas training to get fit to climb a particular rock route or to complete an endurance challenge in the mountains makes sense to me. I joined a gym in January, went twice and haven't been back since - the instructor simply wanted me to do a circuit of weights then to gradually monitor my progress over time. I went home, made a water ball, bought a sledgehammer, got some bands and a pull-up bar and have just done my own thing. Like you say, maybe sometime in the future my goals will change and I'll be obsessed with the desire to do an advanced yoga position (e.g. the Scorpion - and probably be found dead aged 80 with a broken neck with my yoga book next to me!) Very valid points about pursuing your personal goals. That said, your post shows how ‘personal’ those goals are and how variable they are for different people – for me the goal of deadlifting a very heavy weight has no motivational value at all, whereas training to get fit to climb a particular rock route or to complete an endurance challenge in the mountains makes sense to me. I joined a gym in January, went twice and haven’t been back since – the instructor simply wanted me to do a circuit of weights then to gradually monitor my progress over time. I went home, made a water ball, bought a sledgehammer, got some bands and a pull-up bar and have just done my own thing. Like you say, maybe sometime in the future my goals will change and I’ll be obsessed with the desire to do an advanced yoga position (e.g. the Scorpion – and probably be found dead aged 80 with a broken neck with my yoga book next to me!)

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