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	<title>Comments on: Old School Strength &#8211; Hermann Goerner</title>
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		<title>By: ChrisTG</title>
		<link>http://rosstraining.com/blog/2009/10/13/old-school-strength-hermann-goerner/#comment-6655</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisTG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2011 05:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding the appearance of a lack of effort with the 330lb barbell, in the second link the story behind the barbell is explained:

&quot;Goerner was also possibly the only man who could, any time of the day or night, over a period of 20 years, without warming up and clad either athletic attire or street clothes, do a two hands power clean &amp; push jerk with a solid globe barbell weighing 330¾ lbs. What most remarkable about this, besides the long period when he could do it, is that the shaft of the non-revolving barbell happened to be 2⅜ inches in diameter. He is generally considered to have the strongest hands of any man who ever lived.&quot;

So this weight was in fact &#039;light&#039; for Goerner, to be able to lift it without any warmup, at any time, so it&#039;s nowhere near a test of his true abilities.  With a weight he could lift anytime, it wouldn&#039;t take a lot of effort to hold it overhead for a picture. 

Unfortunately Goerner performed many of his lifts when cameras were still brand new and resembled boxes.  He set his one arm deadlift record 91 years ago, nearly 70 years before digital cameras even existed.  With the internet and facebook showing us every single workout, of everyone with a cellphone, camera, webcam, etc it can be easy to adopt a skeptical view of old time feats because there is so little documentation, but one has to appreciate the huge amount of time and advancement that has happened from then until now.  There aren&#039;t pictures because cameras were just not common when these lifts were performed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the appearance of a lack of effort with the 330lb barbell, in the second link the story behind the barbell is explained:</p>
<p>&#8220;Goerner was also possibly the only man who could, any time of the day or night, over a period of 20 years, without warming up and clad either athletic attire or street clothes, do a two hands power clean &amp; push jerk with a solid globe barbell weighing 330¾ lbs. What most remarkable about this, besides the long period when he could do it, is that the shaft of the non-revolving barbell happened to be 2⅜ inches in diameter. He is generally considered to have the strongest hands of any man who ever lived.&#8221;</p>
<p>So this weight was in fact &#8216;light&#8217; for Goerner, to be able to lift it without any warmup, at any time, so it&#8217;s nowhere near a test of his true abilities.  With a weight he could lift anytime, it wouldn&#8217;t take a lot of effort to hold it overhead for a picture. </p>
<p>Unfortunately Goerner performed many of his lifts when cameras were still brand new and resembled boxes.  He set his one arm deadlift record 91 years ago, nearly 70 years before digital cameras even existed.  With the internet and facebook showing us every single workout, of everyone with a cellphone, camera, webcam, etc it can be easy to adopt a skeptical view of old time feats because there is so little documentation, but one has to appreciate the huge amount of time and advancement that has happened from then until now.  There aren&#8217;t pictures because cameras were just not common when these lifts were performed.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandow Plus: the other strongmen (part 4) &#8211; Evans to Hoffman</title>
		<link>http://rosstraining.com/blog/2009/10/13/old-school-strength-hermann-goerner/#comment-3699</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandow Plus: the other strongmen (part 4) &#8211; Evans to Hoffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 14:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] RossTraining has some more biographical detail about Goerner’s life and lifts.  [...] </description>
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		<title>By: Don&#8217;t miss these great links!</title>
		<link>http://rosstraining.com/blog/2009/10/13/old-school-strength-hermann-goerner/#comment-3698</link>
		<dc:creator>Don&#8217;t miss these great links!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 13:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] why but it’s great to read about him as it seems he was a really strong guy.  This post from RossTraining is great and so is this one from The Tight Tan Slacks of Dezso Ban.  If you really can’t get [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] why but it’s great to read about him as it seems he was a really strong guy.  This post from RossTraining is great and so is this one from The Tight Tan Slacks of Dezso Ban.  If you really can’t get [...]</p>
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		<title>By: TomG</title>
		<link>http://rosstraining.com/blog/2009/10/13/old-school-strength-hermann-goerner/#comment-3697</link>
		<dc:creator>TomG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 10:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not a great skeptic by nature, but I wonder how many of these great stories of the early strongmen are apocryphal.  The picture above, of Goerner lifting a 330 pound barbell, just looks fake.  As do others.  There is no strain, no effort.  In fact, it looks like he&#039;s relaxing.  Admittedly, it took quite a bit of time to just take a photograph back then, so it is quite possible that the faked pictures were fake for a very good reason!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not a great skeptic by nature, but I wonder how many of these great stories of the early strongmen are apocryphal.  The picture above, of Goerner lifting a 330 pound barbell, just looks fake.  As do others.  There is no strain, no effort.  In fact, it looks like he&#8217;s relaxing.  Admittedly, it took quite a bit of time to just take a photograph back then, so it is quite possible that the faked pictures were fake for a very good reason!</p>
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		<title>By: Bill C</title>
		<link>http://rosstraining.com/blog/2009/10/13/old-school-strength-hermann-goerner/#comment-3696</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 15:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The USAWA has an annual met in Goerner&#039;s honor.  I&#039;ve not made it this meet but have friends in the organization who still want me to go.  All-Round lifting is great fun.  You can read more about it at USAWA.com
Goerner Deadlift Dozen Plus One 
Start December 05, 2009  08:00 AM
Location Clark&#039;s Gym, Columbia, Missouri
Meet Director:       Bill Clark

Lifts:                    Deadlift - Heels together
                           Deadlift - 2 Bars
                           Hack Lift
                           Jefferson Lift
                           Deadlift - one arm, left and right
                           Deadlift - one arm, thumbless, left and right
                           Reeves Deadlift
                           Deadlift - Index, Middle, Ring, and Little Fingers

Entry Form:           None available. For entry, contact Bill at
                           573-474-4510 in advance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The USAWA has an annual met in Goerner&#8217;s honor.  I&#8217;ve not made it this meet but have friends in the organization who still want me to go.  All-Round lifting is great fun.  You can read more about it at USAWA.com<br />
Goerner Deadlift Dozen Plus One<br />
Start December 05, 2009  08:00 AM<br />
Location Clark&#8217;s Gym, Columbia, Missouri<br />
Meet Director:       Bill Clark</p>
<p>Lifts:                    Deadlift &#8211; Heels together<br />
                           Deadlift &#8211; 2 Bars<br />
                           Hack Lift<br />
                           Jefferson Lift<br />
                           Deadlift &#8211; one arm, left and right<br />
                           Deadlift &#8211; one arm, thumbless, left and right<br />
                           Reeves Deadlift<br />
                           Deadlift &#8211; Index, Middle, Ring, and Little Fingers</p>
<p>Entry Form:           None available. For entry, contact Bill at<br />
                           573-474-4510 in advance.</p>
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		<title>By: Markstraining.com</title>
		<link>http://rosstraining.com/blog/2009/10/13/old-school-strength-hermann-goerner/#comment-3695</link>
		<dc:creator>Markstraining.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 10:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article to read. The deadlift with just two fingers is amazing! for someone to able to perform such a feat demands respect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article to read. The deadlift with just two fingers is amazing! for someone to able to perform such a feat demands respect.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun</title>
		<link>http://rosstraining.com/blog/2009/10/13/old-school-strength-hermann-goerner/#comment-3694</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 23:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some great stuff here. A good old history lesson for all as a lot of the best info gets lost in time. Without a doubt grip strength is the most important thing to work on. 

The thing with grip strength is that if  your strength does ever decrease, you will definitely feel it in your hands for sure.

Match grip strength along with compound exercises and you then have a winning formula.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some great stuff here. A good old history lesson for all as a lot of the best info gets lost in time. Without a doubt grip strength is the most important thing to work on. </p>
<p>The thing with grip strength is that if  your strength does ever decrease, you will definitely feel it in your hands for sure.</p>
<p>Match grip strength along with compound exercises and you then have a winning formula.</p>
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		<title>By: Shane</title>
		<link>http://rosstraining.com/blog/2009/10/13/old-school-strength-hermann-goerner/#comment-3693</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ross, is there any vidoes of him doin these amazing lifts??
Trully incredible if he deadlifted that much in one hand</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ross, is there any vidoes of him doin these amazing lifts??<br />
Trully incredible if he deadlifted that much in one hand</p>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
		<link>http://rosstraining.com/blog/2009/10/13/old-school-strength-hermann-goerner/#comment-3692</link>
		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being a kettlebell lifter for three years and having developed an appreciation for old school training, I certainly gain more and more respect for these mighty men from old school training that you keep sharing with us.  Thanks Ross!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being a kettlebell lifter for three years and having developed an appreciation for old school training, I certainly gain more and more respect for these mighty men from old school training that you keep sharing with us.  Thanks Ross!</p>
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		<title>By: Balrog</title>
		<link>http://rosstraining.com/blog/2009/10/13/old-school-strength-hermann-goerner/#comment-3691</link>
		<dc:creator>Balrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want some of those old school round barbells and leopard skin pants! I think they would go down a storm in my local gym.

His one arm deadlift was unbelievable!

That has just inspired me to go the gym right now. Back in a bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want some of those old school round barbells and leopard skin pants! I think they would go down a storm in my local gym.</p>
<p>His one arm deadlift was unbelievable!</p>
<p>That has just inspired me to go the gym right now. Back in a bit.</p>
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