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		<title>By: Dan Sav</title>
		<link>http://rosstraining.com/blog/2008/12/11/conditioning-isnt-enough/#comment-2643</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Sav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 20:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for reposting this link on facebook. As a new personal trainer, these kinds of bits of info will help me improve greatly. I&#039;m applying this right away, so thanks a ton.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for reposting this link on facebook. As a new personal trainer, these kinds of bits of info will help me improve greatly. I&#8217;m applying this right away, so thanks a ton.</p>
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		<title>By: DoomRater</title>
		<link>http://rosstraining.com/blog/2008/12/11/conditioning-isnt-enough/#comment-2642</link>
		<dc:creator>DoomRater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 06:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Ross,

As unrelated as a game may sound to human athletic conditioning, what that quote also holds true to is in the MMO Sandbox Second Life- interestingly enough, keeping joints that are not involved in a particular animation ALSO allows the animation to appear more natural in game!  To know this principle is rooted in real life is a realization I felt that I needed to share.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Ross,</p>
<p>As unrelated as a game may sound to human athletic conditioning, what that quote also holds true to is in the MMO Sandbox Second Life- interestingly enough, keeping joints that are not involved in a particular animation ALSO allows the animation to appear more natural in game!  To know this principle is rooted in real life is a realization I felt that I needed to share.</p>
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		<title>By: Eugene Thong</title>
		<link>http://rosstraining.com/blog/2008/12/11/conditioning-isnt-enough/#comment-2641</link>
		<dc:creator>Eugene Thong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ross,

This is, by far, my favorite post of yours yet.  Having been a martial artist for years and studied under many (very competent) teachers, I&#039;ve seen this lesson violated time and time again.  Of course, the instructors are innocently ignorant of motor learning principles and are merely doing what their instructors did with them &quot;to toughen them up.&quot;

Better conditioning can make a better athlete, to be sure.  But nothing beats actually playing your sport.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ross,</p>
<p>This is, by far, my favorite post of yours yet.  Having been a martial artist for years and studied under many (very competent) teachers, I&#8217;ve seen this lesson violated time and time again.  Of course, the instructors are innocently ignorant of motor learning principles and are merely doing what their instructors did with them &#8220;to toughen them up.&#8221;</p>
<p>Better conditioning can make a better athlete, to be sure.  But nothing beats actually playing your sport.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Meehan</title>
		<link>http://rosstraining.com/blog/2008/12/11/conditioning-isnt-enough/#comment-2640</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Meehan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 05:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting to read your post after I just finished an article in &quot;Training and Conditioning&quot; by Tim Wakeham on training Rashad Evans to fight Chuck Liddell.  In the article he remarks that innexperienced combat athletes spend to much time in the gym lifting to get big and experienced fighters spend most of their time working on fighting.

Skill work should always make up the majority of a combat athletes conditioning - train for the the sport.  Supplemental work (if you have the energy left) should take the form of GPP.  It all depends on goals - if your goal is to fight, spend the majority of your time training fighting skills (matt, mitts, heavy bag, glove drills, sparring etc).

I train fight skills first (sometimes only, since trainees may be spent).  At the end of training I sometimes add a &quot;Finisher&quot;.  

To many fighters focus on roadwork, lifting etc. when the majority of their time needs to be spent on practicing the basics.  I take a page from Miyamoto Musashi&#039;s book, I don&#039;t have a quote but, he wrote that a great swordsman focused tiredlessly on a few basic and effective techniques and didn&#039;t spend time on flowerly techniques.

This isn&#039;t to say that GPP is not worthwhile only that it should be done in addition or as a supplement to training for your sport.

Be clear what your goals are, is it general conditioning, lifting heavy, getting big, fighting, etc. and then put your focus their for training.  Everyone is different: goals, weaknessnes, challenges to overcome and as a result everyones training is different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting to read your post after I just finished an article in &#8220;Training and Conditioning&#8221; by Tim Wakeham on training Rashad Evans to fight Chuck Liddell.  In the article he remarks that innexperienced combat athletes spend to much time in the gym lifting to get big and experienced fighters spend most of their time working on fighting.</p>
<p>Skill work should always make up the majority of a combat athletes conditioning &#8211; train for the the sport.  Supplemental work (if you have the energy left) should take the form of GPP.  It all depends on goals &#8211; if your goal is to fight, spend the majority of your time training fighting skills (matt, mitts, heavy bag, glove drills, sparring etc).</p>
<p>I train fight skills first (sometimes only, since trainees may be spent).  At the end of training I sometimes add a &#8220;Finisher&#8221;.  </p>
<p>To many fighters focus on roadwork, lifting etc. when the majority of their time needs to be spent on practicing the basics.  I take a page from Miyamoto Musashi&#8217;s book, I don&#8217;t have a quote but, he wrote that a great swordsman focused tiredlessly on a few basic and effective techniques and didn&#8217;t spend time on flowerly techniques.</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t to say that GPP is not worthwhile only that it should be done in addition or as a supplement to training for your sport.</p>
<p>Be clear what your goals are, is it general conditioning, lifting heavy, getting big, fighting, etc. and then put your focus their for training.  Everyone is different: goals, weaknessnes, challenges to overcome and as a result everyones training is different.</p>
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		<title>By: Ikigai</title>
		<link>http://rosstraining.com/blog/2008/12/11/conditioning-isnt-enough/#comment-2639</link>
		<dc:creator>Ikigai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 05:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a great quote. It&#039;s amazing how sheer determination and willingness to try and try again is ultimately the best way to improve (in any endeavor).  

I know I personally had to work through a lot of tension and fatigue throughout my martial arts training, and relaxation is something I always harp on.

Very nice post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a great quote. It&#8217;s amazing how sheer determination and willingness to try and try again is ultimately the best way to improve (in any endeavor).  </p>
<p>I know I personally had to work through a lot of tension and fatigue throughout my martial arts training, and relaxation is something I always harp on.</p>
<p>Very nice post.</p>
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		<title>By: Elliott Hulse</title>
		<link>http://rosstraining.com/blog/2008/12/11/conditioning-isnt-enough/#comment-2638</link>
		<dc:creator>Elliott Hulse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 02:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting that you&#039;ve read Dr. Bradley!  My wife is a certified Bradley Teacher.

We had all 3 of our girls at home and my wife used no drugs.  All of her labors lasted under 30 mins!

Elliott</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting that you&#8217;ve read Dr. Bradley!  My wife is a certified Bradley Teacher.</p>
<p>We had all 3 of our girls at home and my wife used no drugs.  All of her labors lasted under 30 mins!</p>
<p>Elliott</p>
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		<title>By: eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a constant in every endeavor. I wholeheartly agree and it applies in my own, non-physical business, as well. People are making things so complicated that they are forgetting the very rudiments that are essential for building a solid foundation. Well done!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a constant in every endeavor. I wholeheartly agree and it applies in my own, non-physical business, as well. People are making things so complicated that they are forgetting the very rudiments that are essential for building a solid foundation. Well done!</p>
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		<title>By: Super-Trainer</title>
		<link>http://rosstraining.com/blog/2008/12/11/conditioning-isnt-enough/#comment-2636</link>
		<dc:creator>Super-Trainer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right on with this, Ross - You have to keep the client in mind first when making routines - After all, they&#039;re paying your to actually HELP them get to their goals - Not for you to feed your ego as a trainer -</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right on with this, Ross &#8211; You have to keep the client in mind first when making routines &#8211; After all, they&#8217;re paying your to actually HELP them get to their goals &#8211; Not for you to feed your ego as a trainer -</p>
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		<title>By: silas</title>
		<link>http://rosstraining.com/blog/2008/12/11/conditioning-isnt-enough/#comment-2635</link>
		<dc:creator>silas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 23:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very true, I shall try to  make this a habit...the relaxing part not the birthing part :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very true, I shall try to  make this a habit&#8230;the relaxing part not the birthing part <img src='http://rosstraining.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
		<link>http://rosstraining.com/blog/2008/12/11/conditioning-isnt-enough/#comment-2634</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 22:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to say that Ross is right on about novices and taking punches and getting more comfortable.  I have done bag work for quite a while.  Then the Tae Kwon Do instructor at the Y asked if I would like to spar once a week.  I have no formal training and felt like a fish out of water in these sparring sessions.  Flinching too much, closing my eyes, etc.  However, over time, I have become much more comfortable and fluid although my success in these sessions is very limited.  Just very interesting, though, to feel the metamorphisis that has occurred through experience and the ever so fun trial and error.  Getting punched and kicked hurts and these sessions leave me sore and spent even the day after.  What respect I have for these combat athletes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to say that Ross is right on about novices and taking punches and getting more comfortable.  I have done bag work for quite a while.  Then the Tae Kwon Do instructor at the Y asked if I would like to spar once a week.  I have no formal training and felt like a fish out of water in these sparring sessions.  Flinching too much, closing my eyes, etc.  However, over time, I have become much more comfortable and fluid although my success in these sessions is very limited.  Just very interesting, though, to feel the metamorphisis that has occurred through experience and the ever so fun trial and error.  Getting punched and kicked hurts and these sessions leave me sore and spent even the day after.  What respect I have for these combat athletes.</p>
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